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to this debt problem, led us to this deficit problem. they want homeownership for everybody. we want tax cuts. we want medicare part "d." we want an expansion of safety net programs and then this is what happens. there's no one in the middle to figure out how to pay for all this stuff the middle has been getting. >> and that's really honestly what this election is about. i think one of the things that i found fascinating, although i didn't think they quite got there, is when the two candidates were asked about the role of government, because that's what elections are always about, it seems to me. i mean, yes, you know, it's about turning out your base and about this or that, but it is mostly about what do you think the role of government is? should the government, for instance, be helping people buy homes through the deduction that we can take on interest rates on the home loan? that's a legitimate argument. is that really the role of government? and if so, somebody has to pay for it, but i don't think we have yet gotten down to the basics of that. what do you want your government to do becau
doing it but nobody's done it really since reagan. finally let's take a look at the deficit. romney is planning to cut a lot more than funding to big bird and pbs. his plans include repealing obama care, reducing foreign aide and privatizing amtrak. you may notny that's that big of a deal. i use it all the time. romney says privatizing it will save $1.3 billion. the budget is made up a lot of small things. however he does it, his goal is to reduce government spending to 20% of gdp. gdp is the biggest measure of everything we produce in society. he wants to do that by the end 6 his first term. right now government spending is at 25% of gdp. let's shed some more light on what romney's america would look like. kevin hassette is an economic adviser for mitt romney. stevon moore is an editorial writer for "the wall street journal." my good friend christine romans is the host of "your bottom line" right here on cnn. folks, no party or ideological spin today, no using the name obama or the term democrat. pain the me a picture of what the world looks like under romney four years from now us
arguing that the president's job creation efforts have only added to the deficit. >> a couple nights ago we had a debate. you may have had the chance to see that. >> reporter: before the jobs number, romney was riding a wave of momentum after this week's debate, he even got a pass from the president who never mentioned romney's comments on the 47% of americans who don't pay income taxes. >> 47% of the people will vote for the president no matter what. >> reporter: romney tried to put an end to the controversy once and for all on fox. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds, if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you'll say something that doesn't come out right. >> reporter: democrats maintain that tone deafness extends from main street to sesame street. so, obama aides sent a protester in a big bird outfit to mock his call to end funding for pbs. romney will spend part of the weekend in debate prep and the other part in hitting the president on the economy as a senior romney adviser put it, job growth should not be the new normal. >>> now to that shoot
neutral you wouldn't add to the deficit. let's go through how you would do that. specifically home mortgage deductions, charitable mortgage contributions. are you ready to remove those? what's going on? >> well, i've made pretty clear that my prirnls are number one simplify the code. number two, create incentives for small and large businesses to grow. number three, don't reduce the burden on high income taxpayers. and number four, remove the burden somewhat for middle income people. i don't want to raise taxes on any group of americans. those are the principles. at the same time how we carry them out would be lowering the tax rate across the board and making up for that, both with additional growth and with putting a limit on deductions and exemptions, particularly for people at the high end. those are principles which form the bases of what i would do with our tax proposal. what i want to do is to make it simpler, fairer. i want to encourage the economy to grow again. it's pretty clear that the economy is not growing at the rate it should under the president. and i can tell you w
are we doing to get it back? unfortunately for the fiscal year, the u.s. deficit totals $1.4 trillion. it exceeded the $4 trillion mark. >>> jack kennedy and paul ryan, perfect together? some things about them that are similar. both young, energetic, vibrant. paul ryan things they have something in common, joe biden not so sure. the republican candidate invoked a camelot era comparison. this time, the issue taxes. >> you can cut tax rates by 20% and preserve important preferences for middle class taxpayers. >> not mathematically possible. >> it's been done before. >> it's never been done before. >> a couple of times. >> never been done before. >> ronald reagan. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan. >> twitter was atwitter about that. that comment got a noticeable reaction from the group of undecided voters i watched during the debate last night. see it blown up there in the bottom of the screen. here is the problem, both kennedy and reagan working in a different time and place. to start, when both kennedy and reagan took office, individual tax rates not even in the ballpark of
. but most americans have a problem with deficits, which you've rung up four consecutive trillion dollar deficits. they both have a little problem with details. but there is a big, i would strike a big contrast if i was mitt romney. i would put a working state on one side and a welfare state on the other side and i would say america would be much, much better if dollars were earned instead of dollars awarded. it is time to stop rewarding our friends and punishing our enemies and having the government treat every american the same, which is a foundational principal of the rule of law. and i think mitt romney has to do more of that. has he been specific with his plan? he laid five out in the debate, which is more than the president did. that's why independents thought mitt romney did very, very well. >> let me ask you about one of the issues where they differ, medicare. that is a big deal in florida romney says he supports vouchers for medicare, a plan that is not very popular. how does play in florida with all those seniors? >> right now in florida, you've got about 12 million registered
will do little to cut the deficit. >> somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. rounding him up. elmo's got to watch out too. >> reporter: but elmo is not tickled. sesame street's producers released a statement saying it's not taking sides adding we have approved no campaign ads and as is our general practice, have requested that the ad be taken down. republicans are now calling it the big bird backfire. >> i just find it troubling that the president's message -- the president's focus 28 days from election day is big bird. >> reporter: romney's advisors say it's a surprising tactic given what then-senator obama said in his convention speech in 2008. >> if you don't have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from. you make a big election about small things. >> reporter: the romney campaign also believes the candidate is connecting better with voters. here getting choked up talking about navy seal glenn dougherty who died in a consulate attack in libya, a man romney said he once met. >> you can imagine how i felt when i found out that he was one o
this year, we would still have a $300 billion deficit. you see, there aren't enough rich people and small businesses to tax to pay for all their spending. and so the next time you hear them say, don't worry about it, we'll get a few wealthy people to pay their fair share, watch out, middle class, the tax bill is coming to you. that's why we're saying we need tax reform. let's look at it this way. 8 out of 10 businesses, they file their taxes as individuals, not corporations. where i come from overseas, which is lake superior, the canadians, they drop their tax rates to 15%. the average tax rate on businesses in the industrialized world is 25% and the president wants the effective top tax rate to go above 40%. 2/3 of our jobs come from small businesses. this one tax would actually fax about 53% of small business income. it's expected to cost us 710,000 jobs. and it doesn't even pay for 10% of the proposed deficit spending increases. we're saying close loopholes primarily to the higher income people. we have three bottom lines. don't raise the deficit. don't raise taxes on the middle class.
not cut taxes at all if they added to the deficit at all. now, as "the washington post" reporter checks out, for two years romney has been campaigning on a tax cut that would cost around $5 trillion over ten years. romney said he would eliminate deductions and cut spending to pay for it. he never offers details. he did say he would cut funding for public broadcasting which was 0.01% of federal spending in 2012. medicaid was 0.13%. romney also spoke in favor of regulations including much of the dodd/frank bill and he repeatedly held up as a model his health care plan in massachusetts which has added center the individual mandate and on which obama care is based. romney's transformation did not happen overnight. the candidate has been reworking his stump speech. in a very smart analysis, npr pointed out romney has a five point stump speech. the first four points are actually identical to obama's stump speech. two, domestic energy, three, retraining programs, four, domestic. -- deficit reduction. on five they differ. i've long argued that romney is an intelligent man trapped in a party tha
so they don't add to deficits and says that he would do so in large part by curbing tax breaks on the rich. he also has promised not to raise taxes on the middle class. now, this triggered a pretty hot exchange between joe biden and paul ryan over whether it's mathematically possible. let's bring in christine romans to separate fact from fiction. good morning. >> good morning, randi. paul ryan claimed you could cut income taxes by 20% across the board and all while keeping this deficit neutral. listen to that fiery exchange. >> you can cut tax rates by 20% and still preserve these important preferences for middle class taxpayers. >> not mathematically possible. >> it is matmatically possible. >> the nonpolicy tax center says it's not mathematically possible with the amount of information we have about romney's tax plan. not possible to cut rates as much as he would like without deductions that would hurt the middle class. investment taxes and dividend taxes, which the romney campaign has said it wouldn't do. so, for those reasons, our verdict here is that it's false. you can't
'60s, we were running budget surpluses. even in the early '80s, the budget deficit was a lot smaller. that's the key reason i'd be concerned. i think tax reform is a good idea. doug is right. we need to have tax reform, but we need tax reform that raises enough revenue to lower tax rates and also goes to reducing future budget deficit because if we don't get the deficits down, lower tax rates aren't going help us. >> and doug, do you think it's fair to say, romney ryan have been saying they think a 3% growth is reasonable. do you think it is? because for in of this math to work out and this whole argument everybody's having about whether they can cut taxes and close enough loopholes, they are counting on economic growth on being part of making up that difference. will it? >> you can't say for sure because good tax policy does t matter. t not the only thing going on out there and you would have to have a displn palestinianed, economic policy. we have a serious threat to the economy from existed and projected debt. it is different from the era of reagan in that debt is not being driv
? because according to experts, he'd have to raise taxes on the middle class - or increase the deficit to pay for it. if we can't trust him here... how could we ever trust him here? oh, hey alex. just picking up some, brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it's always good to have a backup plan, in case i get hit by a meteor. wow, your hair looks great. didn't realize they did photoshop here. hey, good call on those mugs. can't let 'em see what you're drinking. you know, i'm glad we're both running a nice, clean race. no need to get nasty. here's your "honk if you had an affair with taylor" yard sign. looks good. [ male announcer ] fedex office. now save 50% on banners. >>> their ideas are old and their ideas are bad and they eliminate the guarantee of medicare. >> here's the problem. they got caught with the hands in the cookie jar taking it out for obama care. >> those are great sound bite, but how do we get to the truth in those comments. paul ryan stuck by his proposals at the debate last night. only he said, partially privatizing medicare will not turn into a vo
to experts, he'd have to raise taxes on the middle class - or increase the deficit to pay for it. if we can't trust him here... how could we ever trust him here? silverado! the most dependable, longest lasting, full-size pickups on the road. so, what do you think? [ engine revs ] i'll take it. [ male announcer ] it's chevy truck month. now during chevy truck month, get 0% apr financing for 60 months or trade up to get the 2012 chevy silverado all-star edition with a total value of $8,000. hurry in before they're all gone! >> i want to bring the conversation to the state of our economy, the number one issue here at home is jobs. the percentage of unemployed just fell 8% for the first time in 43 months. the obama administration had projected that it would fall below 6% now after the addition of close to a trillion dollars in stimulus money. will both of you level with the american people, can you get unemployment to under 6% and how long will it take? >> i don't know how long it will take. we can and will get it under 6%. let's look at where we were when we came into office. the economy was i
and deficit and implement a plan thou to pay back what we owe instead of dumping on future generations. so who has the best plan to fix america over the next four years and beyond? that is is the question to ask for the glory of rome. dramatic, i know, but happy saturday. are we closer to fixing this economy before it is too late? some recent signs of recovery say yes. unemployment down the 7.8%, and that the lowest rate since president obama took office. claims for first time unemployment benefits fell to levels not seen since 2008, and some technical details going on there, but the trend is clear. and real estate collapse got us into the mess, but now the housing prices are timely starting to rise. i will say it again, housing prices are starting to rise and foreclosures fell to five-year lows last month. so how do we make sure that the economy really heals? two different philosophies and one being very big election coming up to fix it. president obama says that the businesses need the tax incentives to create more jobs, and he says that the government needs to step in and the government nee
claimed that you can reduce our deficit through tax increases alone. he's never said that. the president and vice president have said we need to take the ballad propose, using the kind of frachlwork that bipartisan groups have suggested. whereas republicans have been very clear not one more penny, even from people like mitt romney to reduce the deficit. so our point isn't that you can increase taxes on wealthier people, and do the whole thing on the deficit. our point of review is that they should be asked to contribute a little more. go back to paying what they were in the clinton administration, when the economy was roaring. that's what we're saying. we support a combination of additional targeted cuts. but also revenue for folks who are doing very well to help reduce the deficit. because if you don't have one penny more from very wealthy people it means you sock it to everybody else. seniors on medicare pay more. less investment in our kids' education. and that's exactly the romney/ryan budget does. itzhaks it to the middle class and seniors, in order to give these tax breaks to very
ryan on debt and deficit matters. have you ever found yourself debating him, you know, taking opposite sides on something, let's say, and if so, was he a tough debater? >> oh, wow. you have me scratching my head on that one. it's -- it would be a pretty odd day paul ryan and i would disagree on anything. he knows the budget better than just about everybody. he has a plan with governor romney for economic growth and although vice president biden is a veteran of 18 different presidential and vice presidential debates, he may score well on style but he's got the obama record to defend and not an easy evening for him on substance. and i think people are very impressed with paul ryan. i mean, here's a guy from the heartland of america. he knows the values and challenges of middle income families. and he's got alan along with governor romney to put america back to work and quit spending money we don't have the children have better opportunities than we have had and -- >> let me jump in. >> i'm looking forward to tonight. >> on that plan, the question then is, does paul ryan need to be more s
that are hurting get the skills to get the job they want. get the deficit under control to avoid a debt crisis. make trade work for america so we can make more things in america. and sell them overseas and champion small businesses. don't raise taxes on small businesses because they're the job creators. he talks about detroit. mitt romney is a car guy. they keep misquoting him. but let me tell you about the mitt romney i know. this is a guy two i was talking to a family in massachusetts the other day. cheryl and mark nixon. their kids were hit in a car crash, four of them, two of them, rob and reed, were paralyzed. the romneys didn't know them. they went to the same church, they never met before. mitt asked if he would come over for christmas. he brought his wife and boys and gifts and later said, i know you're struggling, mark. don't worry about their college, i'll pay for it. when mark told me this story, he -- because you know what, mitt romney doesn't tell these stories. he said it wasn't the cash help. it's that he gafe his time and he has consist enltly. this is a man who gave 30% of his
is bound to kick the can on a decision about cutting spending, and deficit control, change the can. come up with a condition for not making a deal that is actually palatable and not horrible for the economy like the currents situation we have. tell me how that would happen. are there enough people like you and those who you are trying network with who are still in office in washington to hammer out a more perfect compromise? >> i think those kind of people are in the house and the senate. i think they are talking with each other. but the problem is, ali, they are not getting support from their own leaders in the congress, republicans or democrats. they are not getting support from the white house. they are not getting support from their party base who insist on 100% solution in their favor. and the american people, the common sense americans that i think are in the great majority have to rise up because that's the missing part of the airplane is the middle. the wings are flapping and make being their voices heard but the middle is not. that's got to happen because we got get behind people l
you pay for that gap? you can either just add it to the deficit or you can close deductions and loopholes for middle class families. that's the mortgage deduction, the child deduction, charitable deduction, and that's been estimated to be about $2,000 for middle class families. that's the math. so he's taking my words out of context. it is a $5 trillion tax cut that he cannot pay for. >> let's just clarify two things there. one is did you say that it was wrong. is he right when he says that? >> no. what i said, piers, was the total of his tax cuts cost $5 trillion. now, if he's going to close loopholes and deductions, you know, that cost will be lowered. but it's not going to be lowered enough for this thing to be totally paid for. the only way to do that -- >> i understand that. >> -- is to close deductions for middle class families. >> this is quite important. it's quite important because -- >> he's wrong. >> okay. let's discuss how he's wrong. because what he says is when the president keeps saying as he did in that debate it's a $5 trillion tax cut, you are already conce
the president was running as a candidate four years ago, he looked at the deficits under president bush and found them to be excessive and unamerican. they're about half as large as the ones he has put in place over each of the last four years. he said he was going to cut the deficit in half. he doubled it. there's no question if he was going to be re-elect, we would see trillion dollar deficits again and again and again. our marshall debt now is almost the same as our total economy, our gdp. this slows down the economy. it makes it harder for businesses to grow and hire more people and to raise wages. so unlike the president, when i finally get this shot, i will cap federal spending. i will cut federal spend and get us on track to a balanced budget. thereby other differences as well. the government is planning on through obama care cutting medicare for our current retirees by $716 billion. i hi that's wrong. i think we must honor the promise made to our seniors. i will restore that funding and make sure we protect medicare. one more thing i'll mention. the president's budget calls for
of planned parenthood funding. apparently, this along with big bird is driving the deficits. >> reporter: the campaign rallies and the presidential debates are very different events, but the contrast in body language and the sales pitch is hard to overlook. zingers are back. >> my opponent is trying to do a two-step and re-position. and got an extreme makeover, governor romney was fact-checked by his own campaign. >> reporter: and so was talk about governor romney's mention of the 47% fundraiser, which never came up in the debate. >> we have all said that real change takes time. it certainly can't happen if you're willing to write off half the nation before you take office. >> reporter: many argue that while the president lost on performance at the debate, he won on substance. but his gop opponent, campaigning in virginia, begs to differ. >> i get the chance to ask the president some questions, i think people across the country wanted to ask him these questions. i got a chance to ask why the middle class is so buried in this country, incomes have gone down. price of gasoline has doubled.
deficits they need to overcome. i want to go over a couple other numbers. it's all about the honesty and the truthfulness and then the consistency. let's start with the honest and truthful aspect. there you have obama leading romney 44-39 when it comes to just how honest and truthful you think these candidates are. then when it comes to consistency, which the obama campaign has been hammering away on what they perceive as flip-flops, 47-37. that is what some people, hogan, my dear friend, former intern, which i always like to disclose, is a trust deficit. is it? >> well, so much of american politics is based on do i know you, do i trust you and do i like you. those are some damaging numbers for governor romney for sure. but look, the fact of the matter is he crushed president obama in that debate and these numbers reflecting what a lot of people saw and that was a center rowtype that had been lined out about romney that he was some cold, heartless business man. he turned that on its ear. conversely, one of the stereotypes out for president obama is he's a great guy, just in over his
cuts across the board, remain deficit neutral without eliminating deductions that benefit the middle class. listen. >> you can cut tax rates by 20%. >> not mathematically possible. >> it is mathematically possible. >> the facts, nonpartisan tax policy center says given what we know about romney's plan, it's not possible to cut rates as much as he would like without eliminating deductions that would affect the middle class. you can't do it without changing rules on taxes, which the romney campaign said it will not do. our verdict here is false according to the tax policy center, this cannot be done. another subject, the auto bailout. the vi president made the claim that mitt romney said let detroit go bankrupt. >> we immediately went out and rescued general motors, went ahead and made sure we cut taxes for the middle class. in addition to that, when that occurred, what did romney do? romney said, no, let detroit go bankrupt. >> romney penned an op-ed that the editors titled, "let detroit go bankrupt." romney never used those words. he called for a managed bankruptcy of auto companies.
. >> tough choices, to reduce the deficit. and we need revenue in order to get that done. and we're going to have to ask millionaires and billionaires to do their fair share in order to get that done. but he refuses to saddle seniors and the middle class with that entire burden. >> but you're defining middle class in this press release -- as people earning between 100 and $200,000 a year. >> well, that's not where we established the baseline. the president has said that if you make $250,000 or less, that your taxes shouldn't go up. that's where we've set the bar. >> all right. well, we will leave it there. thank you very much, ben labolt, appreciate your taking the time. i would like to get that little sharpie version of your press release. >>> all right. well, you may think we're obsessing over a number, this $5 trillion versus $1 trillion. but the reason we're doing it, we don't think it's just a number. it goes to the heart of whether president obama stays in the white house. and that is because of what ben labolt was saying. that number is about whether you're for the middle class or
. and the reason is he's talking about tax cuts and deficit reduction at the same time. and the pew poll that came out earlier this week, wolf, said six in ten voters believe that romney is promising more than he can deliver. one reason bill clinton's speech was so popular at the democratic convention was he said the arithmetic doesn't add up. so you can push is this just rhetoric during a campaign, or is this real? if you want to close tax loopholes, okay, fine. what loopholes would you close? he's got to answer that. and so far hasn't done it. >> his argument is i don't want to put all that out right now. because if he's president, he's going to have to negotiate all those issues with democrats. and why put your on position out right now. >> sure. >> i don't know if his argument's going to necessarily hold. that's another matter. a lot of folks have seen romney over these past couple weeks at the debate, in the interview with me, moving more towards the center. do you see that? >> i did. i saw that particularly in your interview when he talked about the wealthy and how his tax plan would affect
with the skills they need to get the jobs they want. get this deficit and debt under control to prevent a debt crisis. make more things in america and sell them overseas and champion small businesses. don't raise taxes on small businesses, they're our job creators. >> they get out of the way. if they get out of the way and let us pass the tax cut for the middle class and make it permanent. they get out of the way and let us allow 14 million people who are struggling to stay in their homes because their mortgages are upside down but they never missed a mortgage payment. >> ali velshi is our chief business correspondent. ali velshi, welcome back. unemployment below 6%, to quote you, in your op-ed on cnn money, no more bs, please. care to extrapolate? >> right, so let's put the unemployment number aside for a second. that is a nonpartisan number, that's congressional budget office they say if nothing changed, we would have an unemployment rate of about 6.3% by the end of 2016. the end of the next presidential term. but as we have learned in the last week, the unemployment rate measures different
, what they're paying in the grocery store, the level of debt and deficit this country is facing, it's clear that we have a lot of problems in this country that the president has just not addressed, and i think that's why we saw his debate performance the way that it was a couple of nights ago. he has a really, really hard time defending his record, defending the last four years and that's why we saw such a difference between him and governor romney on the stage last wednesday in denver. >> kirsten, thank you very much. appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> a 12-year-old boy is attacked on a school bus but didn't tell his mother. we'll tell you how she found out. >>> it's one of the most recognizable guitar riffs ever recorded. the theme to "james bond." ever wonder how much the guy who played it made? we'll tell you next. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ or help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technolog
. mitt romney said cutting funding to pbs would be one element of his plan to shrink the deficit. look at this ad that the obama campaign came out with today. john? >> bernie madoff, ken lay, kozlowski, criminals, glutens of greed and the evil genius who towered over them? one man has the guts to speak his name. >> big bird. >> big bird. >> big bird. >> it's me, big bird. >> big, yellow, a menace to our economy. mitt romney knows it's not wall street you have to worry about, it's sesame street. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. >> mitt romney taking on the enemy no matter where they nest. >> this is risky for the obama campaign. they're campaign has been criticized about being about small things. we'll see if this could be a backfire. the campaign tells me this ad is running only on national broadcast and cable. it's not running in swing states. i'm interested to see how much money is behind this ad or if this is just an attempt to get the chattering classes like us -- >> on the one hand it is small, every time i see it, i laugh. it is genuinely humorous and funny. all swing sta
of them, so to speak. you write today in the "washington post" that president obama may be the deficit for him was he's out of practice. what do you mean? >> well, look, people have come up with all kinds of explanations, and i particularly like al gore's notion that the altitude was too high for the president. in this case you see almost all incumbent presidents have a difficult time. they spent four years in the white house being cloistered around not challenged bir their aides, by lawmakers or anybody else or the press trying to ask questions. in obama's case that's been difficult because he set all kinds of modern records for avoiding the press, avoiding news conferences and chances to mix it up with the press. when you're not being kept on your toes, getting skeptical, even hostile questions regularly, you get out of practice and those muscles aatrophy. that may have contributed to what he was so flat and sweel see if he can get back into the game of being challenged. >> the flipside to that, romney seizes what he thinks is a great opportunity, the economy. it was like he was in t
.7 trillion surplus. social security hasn't contributed one nickel to the deficit, can pay out benefits for the next 20 years. the president should be saying now what he said four years ago. he is not going to cut social security while romney and ryan certainly are. >> would you blame the president himself or his aides and advisers who were supposedly preparing him for this first debate? >> wolf, all of us in public life like to blame our staff when things go bad, but you know what, at the end of the day, it's the president, it's a united states senator, it's a congress person. we've got to take responsibility. the president should have got in there swinging, differentiating what a progressive policy position is as opposed to an extreme right wing one. put romney on the defensive. how dire you give tax breaks to the richest people in this country while we have the most unfair distribution of wealth and income. how dare you throw children off of medicaid when we've got 50 million people without any health insurance today. put him on the defensive instead of saying oh, i agree with you on
it back? the federal deficit has hit $1.1 trillion now for fiscal 2012. this is the fourth year in a row. that won't help us, that's for sure. our fourth story, developing story, two suspects from tunisia are being questioned tonight in connection with the murders of chris stevens and three other americans. jill daugherty has been digging into the story and is with us tonight. >> well, on this particular incident, we don't know a whole lot of detail, but we know those two men, they are being questioned in turkey. and the understanding is that they were somehow allegedly tied to the attack in libya. now, they were on the watch list that the u.s. compiled. that was given to the turks and the turks picked them up, apparently came into the country this week and the fbi is hoping they will have some type of access to them. >> questioned them already, but would like to have a chance to. >> right. >> there was also another development today in this investigation. this e-mail between the state department and the team benghazi surfaced. what do we know about that? >> well, this is part of, you kn
trust. he said he was going to cut the deficit in half. that is trust. if a politician changes his position on issues do you see it as a cynical exercise? >> no. listen, i hear what you are saying. i think it is possible to learn things about legislation and determine things as you go through lift and you can change your mind. yes, i think that is possible. but what i don't think is possible is for a president to made grandious promises knowing the condition of where we were headed saying that he would fix this economy not even coming close to his promises, that is different. i would say this is a record of makes and breaking promises. and that is why you can't stand in front of a debate moderator for 90 minutes and make the case for the people. he didn't have a bat night, he is not capable of bringing a game. >> thank you for joining me. here now with the other side is debby. doesn't he have no game? >> well, you know, it is not surprising that my counter part is being critical of president obama when he's got his own candidate as you said this isn't etch asketch. this is simply m
'd have to raise taxes on the middle class - or increase the deficit to pay for it. if we can't trust him here... how could we ever trust him here? . >>> as we await mitt romney and paul ryan, let's get to our strategy session. joining us now two cnn contributors, the democratic strategist maria cardona and former bush speech writer david frum. thanks very much for coming in. we had a focus group, undecided voters watching in virginia at the debate last night. and the low point for paul ryan happened when he was talking about abortion. let me play this. >> we don't think that unelected judges should make this decision that people through their elected representatives and reaching a consensus in society through the democratic process should make this determination. >> that was the low point for him. and among those focus groups in the dial test today @barack obama the twitter site tweeted low point happened near the end of the debate when he was asked about abortion. i was referring to that focus group. how much of a problem is the difference between the democratic ticket and the republica
for the president during the deficit conversations. and so congressman ryan will not be able to say i'm the budget guy. biden will be able to say i was once sitting across the table from speaker john boehner, having those discussions. >> maybe that bodes well for some kind of hechft and substan. >> absolutely. >> and foreign policy, right? >> yes. biden will relish saving the president's butt. >> they are a little nervous. >> you think? >> joe biden -- little nervousness there. >> shirtless joe biden on the podium. >> my eyes are burned, i believe. >> if he has a good night he will walk off and tell the president, yeah, you owe me for that one. >> sparkling. >> of course. >> you should drink every time they mention scranton. you will be drinking. >> what about middle class? i think you would not even make it through the debate if you drink every time they say middle class. >> you want to be sober, they won't say poor. you will not hear poverty. >> how about every time they mention their parents? >> you're drinking. no question. >> middle class and parents. two big ones. >> live look at tonight's d
taxes on the middle class - or increase the deficit to pay for it. if we can't trust him here... how could we ever trust him here? and i was told to call my next of kin. at 33 years old, i was having a heart attack. now i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. i didn't know this could happen so young. take control, talk to your doctor. i didn't know this could happen so young. ffor help finding a plan that's right for you, give unitedhealthcare a call today. >>> a man who is investigating violence against the u.s. embassy in yemen is now shot dead in a street today. it happened in yellen's capital. the man was a yemeni fwhooshl had worked for the embassy for 20 years. witnesses say men on motorcycles drove up next to his car and opened fire. it happened in broad daylight in one of the city's main streets, and the way he was killed, his long career with the u.s. government making officials believe that perhaps he was singled out and targeted. want to talk about paula about this, and what do we know about the
, the economy, rising deficits. >> i understand. hang on. hang on. hang on. ron, we're not going to do talking points here. i'm asking you a very simple question. >> i'm not doing talking points. >> i didn't ask you about the economy. we can get to that. what did he mean in his statement that seems to be contradictory statements? >> i just told you what he meant. he said that his agenda is not going to be focused on abortion. it's going to be -- he did not say it was going to be focused on other issues, but obviously it's going to be. that's why he talked about the economy, what voters care about in these 27 days. >> romney was criticized for changing views on key issues and former president clinton had something to say about it. take a listen. >> i had a different reaction to that first debate than a lot of people did. i thought, wow! here is old moderate mitt. where have you been, boy? i missed you all these last few years. just show up with a sunny face and say, i didn't say all that stuff i said the last two years. i don't have that tax plan i had for the last two years. are you going to b
would have to raise taxes on the middle class, or increase the deficit to pay for it. if we can't trust him here, how could we ever trust him here? >> roller coaster week hitting a high note for president obama. the new jobless numbers are easing the pain of his poor debate performance and bring romney's momentum to a sharp stop or it may not. joining me now, "new york times" columnist, nick kristof. an intriguing week politically, especially given 32 days before the election. let's start with the job figures today. because it's clearly good news for barack obama politically if nothing else. >> not only the numbers today but the revisions for the last two months. we seem to really be on a trajectory and you know, this is going -- apparently what really matters is not the economy for the year but the economy at the moment as people approach the election. people are beginning to vote. >> the good news for barack obama there. not so good news his performance at the debate. common consensus is a bit of a turkey. >> he blew it. >> why did he blow it? he's such a skillful orator usually. >> i
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